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Old 09-22-2008, 01:37 PM
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Population:
Greater Sydney Region - 4.25 million
Greater Shanghai Region - 19.3 million

5 times, that is, 5:1. But the CBD (with dense high rises) size comparison is like 500:1. However, we do seem to have more trees.
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Why do you want our nice little city to turn into a monster horror like these citys???

Sure were small but we are also easy going and memorable in the right ways. Big isn't always better....
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Old 09-23-2008, 03:36 AM
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I wouldnt want Sydney to turn out like whats in those photos.

But the fact cant be ignored that Sydney needs to either expand out or up.

Whatever the case we are only ever going to recieve second best because of the state governments that have been in power and are still in power.


I mean if Sydney were to get the best the Eastern suburbs would have had, by now, a comprehensive underground metro rail line that would have stations right on the promenades of the major beaches like Bondi, Coogee and Maroubra.
But not with this government. Theyre too busy applying themselves to some ridiculous UN charter based on the global warming scam.
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Population
Greater Sydney Region - 4.25 million
Greater Shanghai Region - 19.3 million
(Greater Tokyo Region - 35.0 million)

You are right, you are right... However I do think a city of 4.25 million people deserves a much larger CBD area than the current one. (At least make it to Glebe, right? And we should build some real elevated bridges over some 5kms, which we don't have, you know about the traffic jam on Parramatta Rd and other main roads? Not good. Too few lanes and too poor surface... And we will also want to improve our shopping environment, build larger and more luxury shopping malls and super-markets. Because I am not satisfied with the current situation, especially the hardware side of the city, as compared to many other overseas cities, in the new century (For sure, 8 years has passed away real quick...). We must stive forward, Aussies!)

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Population
Greater Sydney Region - 4.25 million
Greater Shanghai Region - 19.3 million
(Greater Tokyo Region - 35.0 million)

You are right, you are right... However I do think a city of 4.25 million people deserves a much larger CBD area than the current one. (At least make it to Glebe, right? And we should build some real elevated bridges over some 5kms, which we don't have, you know about the traffic jam on Parramatta Rd and other main roads? Not good. Too few lanes and too poor surface... And we will also want to improve our shopping environment, build larger and more luxury shopping malls and super-markets. Because I am not satisfied with the current situation, especially the hardware side of the city, as compared to many other overseas cities, in the new century (For sure, 8 years has passed away real quick...). We must stive forward, Aussies!)
I think you'll find a company run by Frank Lowy is going to revitalize a large area in and around Centrepoint. I think hes also going to have the old Woolworths building out front the Sydney Townhall pulled down and then build something new on top of it.
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Old 09-25-2008, 02:37 PM
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The good thing is that is actually good news, the bad thing is that it would probably take them a long time to build it. I hope they finish it in 5 years. It's just one building, nothing much right, low ceiling 40 storeys at most, so please finish it soon and make it look nice.
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If they can make it a 40 storey high ceiling one with luxury lobby at the intersection there of up to 180 - 200 meters (around 600 ft), that'll be a little bit cooler, and I'll be impressed a little... bit... more...
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Im not particulary impressed.

The state government has made a mess of things and the people of Sydney have missed out. There is so much that could have been done with Sydney in the way of construction and planning but unfortunately when it comes to civil planning the NSW labour government acts more like a gestapo than a body of professionals.
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The transport situation in Sydney would have been better if it were not for the inaction of governments going back over the last eighty years or more - not just the current government. Back around 1920 Dr Bradfield planned a comprehensive electric railway system, which covered just about all that there was then of Sydney, but only part of it got built. Governments of all political hues are responsible for the failure of this plan to come to fruition.

We had to wait until the 1970s for a truncated Eastern Suburbs line to be built and, of course, there is, more recently, the Airport Link line built in one of those Public/Private partnerships. The latter of these lines is so ridiculously expensive to travel on that the fares must surely be keeping people in their cars. I mean, I had to go from Central to Green Square a while ago and it cost me about as much as it would cost to go to Parramatta - and that's for a trip you could walk in just over an hour if you had the time...

Aside from what we have now, in Bradfield's plan there was to be a loop line from Central through the eastern suburbs to St James, taking in Waterloo, Rosebery, Coogee, Bondi Junction, Edgecliff, Paddington and Kings Cross, with branches to La Perouse and Watsons Bay, there were to be lines to Mosman and Athol Bay, to Narrabeen and to Pittwater, there was to be an inner west line from Wynyard, through Balmain, Rozelle, Leichhardt and Annandale, linking up to the main line at Petersham and the Balmain Leichhardt line was also to link to the northern line at Ryde, serving Drummoyne, Five Dock and Gladesville.

The University of Sydney's website has a map showing Bradfield's proposed railways (in 1924 Bradfield received the first Doctorate of Science in Engineering awarded by the University of Sydney). The map is too large to post an image of it in a forum, so here's a link instead: Bradfield's map
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Old 02-05-2009, 12:40 AM
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One of the problems is that effectively planning and developing a city takes years and politicians rarely think beyond the next election. They just don't want to spend money on something that won't guarantee that they'll get re-elected.....
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