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Old 23-08-2008
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Default Thinking about moving to Sydney

I am an Australian citizen by birth, i left it when i was four and haven't been back since. I live in the U.S. in Florida right now, but lately I've been obsessed with the idea of moving to sydney and starting a new life. I am wondering what the benefits of being Australian are (i.e. what sort of assistance does govt offer with medical, attending university, and benefits of an Aussie passport). I am currently awaiting my papers here, but the process is so long and draining, that i have come to the conclusion that an American residency/citizenship is really not worth all the trouble, and everyone swears by life in Australia. Any info that could be helping is welcome.
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Old 24-08-2008
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Well as an Aussie you can look forward to your country being sold out by traitors in parliament.
You can watch as your once White nation turns into a cesspool of non-White violence. Usually aimed at White people.
You can sit back and watch the NSW State government intentionally cause as much trouble as it can by not rezoning and releasing any new land.

You can also watch the efforts of the traitor Rudd turn Australia into Great Southern China and all from the cozy position of your armchair placed smack bang in front of a massive plasma screen, quite affordable at less than $2000, and dont forget the popcorn.
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Old 29-08-2008
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What a load of rubbish - How biggoted are you? Why don't you leave if it's that bad???
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Old 30-08-2008
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That is a pretty Biggoted perspective and I am offended that you think this nation was originally white.
I didnt say originally White. I said it was once a White nation.
You obviously believe the lie that 'Australia has always been a multicultural nation'. It has not. From appox. 1850 to the early 1990s Australia was 90% White European. And since 1850 to this day White Europeans are still the majority. Only today thanks to multiculturalism White Europeans are now roughly 62% of the population, and declining.


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In fact this nation was founded by blacks and the whites spilled blood of countless black people in a long history of violent racism.
Was it? Gee, were you there 40,000 years ago when a bunch of savage hunter-gatherers 'founded' something that wasnt even called Australia?
Amazing.

And as for spilling blood the aboriginals also spilt the blood of White men.
And during those times back then across the world there was much spilling of blood, alot of that blood was White and innocent but i bet you wouldnt give a care in the world.

We didnt start 'killing' for the sake of it, it happened out of strife between two peoples. We werent like the Spanish Conquistadores who went in to South America and almost wiped out an entire people. We werent like muslims and started hacking off peoples bodily parts.
And furthermore im PROUD of my history and my heritage.


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The White Australia policy was a sad period of australian history where pharochial morons like SideWinder dominated the majority of the population.
If you think that about White Australians then it is you who are the racist. You obviously hate Whites. What is wrong with White Australians having a country that is theirs? Im sure you dont mind the fact that China is full of Chinese and that Japan is full of Japanese. And dont forget the japs also moved into a country which had its own indigineous peoples.

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Actualy you will find that most Aussies are tollerant of all cultures and it is quite an interesting place to live. There are many cultural influences from european and asian to african and middle eastern. There is a wide range of social subcultures that cater to many different walks of life.
There is also a wide range of non-White criminals and White-Haters.

The above ethnic groups have only been around over the past 30 years. Africans have only been here for about the past 15 years. Asians have only been here for about the past.... well since the Vietnam war really.

WE have been here for the past 220years building this nation up to what it is today!

Its time they stopped coming here. We the White Australian owners of this country were lied to by our politicians in reguard to immigration. They never told us they were going to bring in migrants indefinitely. And WE sure as hell are not going to bow down to a false ideology like Multiculturalism.


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The Public medical system is slightly overloaded but it is very good, rivaling some of the best medical systems of europe. We have a very good Social support system so everyone gets a fair shot at what they want to do.
Everyone gets a fair shot!! What a laugh. You started out this diatribe by attacking my people and what we want to do. Hypocrite!

We once had a good medical system. Its in a shambles now. Thanks to the ALP and incompetent non-White doctors and nurses.


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We have a very strong Green movment and our culture is changing toward environmentaly friendly living. we have such days a Clean up Australia day, Plant a tree day, and may other community projects similar to this.
The GREEN movement. You FOOL.
The green movement is just a quasi-communist-block movement.
You remember Communism dont you? More than 20MILLION dead!!
Communist Russia. Remember that?!

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Unlike America nobody but the Police and Some Security officers are permitted to carry firearms, so shootings aren't as frequent as in the US, also our Govenment isn't as convoluted as the American system.
The amercian system is going to down because of morons like you.

When the government forces people to follow false ideologies and twats like you follow it like good little sheep THATS when a country starts going down. And this country started going down in the mid-90s when large numbers of non-Whites started coming in and jumping on welfare and because foolish Whites were too easily being brainwashed by the politicians and the mainstream media.

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Australia is kind of laid back compared to many other countries in the world all I can say is that you have to experence it for yourself.
Australia wont be laid back for much longer.


And finally, do you even know what a bigot is? Its a person who refuses to argue on the basis they know they cant win the arguement.

And if YOU are non-White you truly are a racist. And if you are White then you need to wake up to yourself.

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Old 30-08-2008
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That is a pretty Biggoted perspective and I am offended that you think this nation was originally white. In fact this nation was founded by blacks and the whites spilled blood of countless black people in a long history of violent racism. The White Australia policy was a sad period of australian history where pharochial morons like SideWinder dominated the majority of the population.

Actualy you will find that most Aussies are tollerant of all cultures and it is quite an interesting place to live. There are many cultural influences from european and asian to african and middle eastern. There is a wide range of social subcultures that cater to many different walks of life.

The Public medical system is slightly overloaded but it is very good, rivaling some of the best medical systems of europe. We have a very good Social support system so everyone gets a fair shot at what they want to do. We have a very strong Green movment and our culture is changing toward environmentaly friendly living. we have such days a Clean up Australia day, Plant a tree day, and may other community projects similar to this.

Unlike America nobody but the Police and Some Security officers are permitted to carry firearms, so shootings aren't as frequent as in the US, also our Govenment isn't as convoluted as the American system.

Australia is kind of laid back compared to many other countries in the world all I can say is that you have to experence it for yourself.
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What a load of rubbish - How biggoted are you? Why don't you leave if it's that bad???
Oh no, im staying right where i am, right here in MY COUNTRY, where i will fight to the death to keep it. We're not stupid. We have to think about the future of our people. We started feeling the hatred of ignorant and unintelligent non-Whites years ago. There have been MANY murders of Whites and MANY rapes and we WONT forget that. So we know just how Whites are going to get treated in the future. Therefore we must work at preserving our race. And why not? when non-Whites come here, aspecially arab-muslims, they do a damn fine job at preserving their race, so we are going to do the same.

And if you're against that it is YOU who is the racist.

And no im not biggoted because if i were i wouldnt have continued with the arguement.

So just how much do you hate White people that you want to attack me because im White and Proud?
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Old 31-08-2008
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I don't tolerate intolerance. I will not argue with an idiot though because as the saying goes, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience! I am not very experenced at being an idiot!
Youve well so far.

The real reason you wont argue is because you know that there is truth in sticking to ones own and therefore wishing to protect and preserve ones own.


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For the record however I will say this...
I am not a racist, because, I don't favor one race over another, however, you do Sidewinder.
When it comes to marriage and children i absolutely prefer one race over ALL others. My Race. The White Race.

As for socialising etc. i have no problem with other races just as long as im not overwhelmed by another race. Which is right considering im in my own country.

And as for favouring one race over another, YOU favour every race accept the White race. You are obviously a multiculturalist and that means you advocate the slow genetic destruction of the White Race.

Why do you advocate the destruction of my race and therefore my people? I dont seek that for any race.

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I believe that every Aussie has the right to leave the country and not be a part of this society if they don't believe that the country is headed in the direction they want.
I believe in fighting for what is essential be it violently or otherwise.
This country is not going in a proper direction at all and will speak out against it.
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Why don't you go to hell sidewinder (I hear it is warm this time of year) you seem to be totaly deluded about your views of the world, or is that brainwashed by your biggoted parents...
My parents are just as indoctrinated as you are. The New World Order agenda has worked wonders on them as it has you.

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If anyone does hate white Australians it is because of narrow minded imbaciles like you who are afraid to quesion the validity of what they have been brought up with.
It was because i questioned the validity of the marxist-multicultural
tripe that was rammed down my throat when i was at school that i have come round to my senses and accepted who i am and where im from and then knew what has to be done. And that is speak out against a sick and twisted world.

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Sidewinder as far as I am concerned you deserve everything you get from anti-white ethnic Australians, your weak minded thoughtless views have brought it all down on you...
On the contrary it is the weak mindedness of the indoctrinated robots like yourself and previous generations that has bough it all down on me and for that i shall fight against the system and people like you. To my last breath!

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Actually after reading your post sidewinder you sound like a Paranoid Scizophrenic who has delusions that taking prescribed medication is a government conspiracy. HAHAHAHAHA
Not so much taking prescribed medication but being forced to take innoculations like they have to in the States.

And as for 'conspiracy theories' how about we speak on that topic instead of the race issue?

How about we start with 9/11?
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Old 31-08-2008
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hey thedewd

I apologise that this thread has been hijacked by Sidewinders paranoid biggotry. I also think I have contributed to his ranting by throwing fuel on the fire. I am sorry for that.

Otherwise Australia is quite a peaceful country with a mostly tolerant community far away from most international issues, and no major earthquake zones either.

If you do decide to bless our shores for a holiday, I hope your stay is pleasurable...
Ah yes, the Backdown.

Those who choose not to argue are those who are afraid of finding out they are wrong.

And if you think you are a person of tolerance as you make out to be you SHOULD tolerate me having my own opinion.

Of course you are not willing to tolerate those whose opinion is different to your own. Hypocrite.

You are typical of people who believe that everything they ever need to know comes to them through the TV screen. Never bothering to investigate. And thats why people like you have no opinions of your own, you simply parrot what has been given to you by the mainstream media and the politicians. You belong to that group known as the Dead.
And it is because of people like you that the corrupt individuals in power are able to get away with anything.

You are apart of the problem, not part of the solution.
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Old 02-09-2008
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By the way people artilect has decided to engage me in arguement through private message.

He or She, im guessing a she, can not stand in the kitchen in fear of being burnt.

Anyone else offended by what ive said and would like to retort?
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Old 03-09-2008
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Default A couple of observations

I think any country restricting its cultural boundaries to one culture or race should be considered as bad as the islamic countries where the hatred for non-muslims is open. Non-muslims aside, their hatred for non-arabs (including non arabic muslims) actually governs their policies. Sidewinder seems to be suggesting that Australia should be restricted to white people alone, this would only make Australia as bad as Saudi Arabia. The people would end up being just as isolated, bigoted and violent. Please do not attack me on this, I have been there, lived and worked there and I know what it is like.

But I fully understand Sidewinder's anguish and point (I am neither white nor was I born and raised in Australia). Australia is what it is today based on a core set of values and principles. Every country has them. If these basic values get eroded over time, the geographic and political Australia will continue to exist, but it will no longer be the nation it was envisioned to be by the founders. Again I agree with Sidewinder about not getting into the "aboriginals blood spilled" argument. Appalling as it was, it is over and it is time to move one. Australia today is what it is primarily because of the vision and work of predominantly white "european" settlers. They did come from various countries perhaps, with various backgrounds but they all adopted a common set of principles and values that lead to nation building.

It is my humble view that whoever comes to Australia must first strive to understand and accept those values and adopt them (if they have not already done so). Freedom of religion and all is fine, but it should not override the cultural foundation on which this nation was built. We do not see many people migrating to Somalia or Nigeria, or to that matter even powerfully growing economies like India or China. But we must accept that for whatever reason, Australia has succeeded in establishing a standard of life that surpasses the standards of hundreds of other countries, and this is in my view, a direct result of the vision and hard work of the founding fathers of this nation. Every culture has some rich values and wisdom, but people of some choose to live by them and that is what makes the difference.

My point is that when someone comes to Australia, they should first understand what makes this nation so great, and accept that they came here to give themselves a better life. True, they also contribute taxes and intelligence, but they did choose to make a move to this place because a lot of work has already been done. There is nothing wrong with Sidewinder being sentimentally being attached to something that was achieved after generations of hard work (though Sidewinder has taken it a couple of notches higher than most would like) and those of us who arrive here must respect that.

India and Britain have lately been overly favorable to the islamic community and in India the muslims have a separate law (like men can have 4 wives and need not pay alimony to divorces wives, no formal procedure for divorcing a spouse etc) and it sucks. There are many non-bailable arrest warrants issued by the supreme court against the Imam of New Delhi but no one has the guts to implement those warrants and arrest him. Thus the very laws passed by Parliament are openly flouted and it is only a matter of time before the system collapses.

Australia, USA etc have a much better standard of life because by and large, the majority of the people respect the law. They may disagree with it, but they accept it and their disagreement is expressed in a parliamentary way. When was the last time hordes of Australians ran amuck on the streets setting buses on fire, destroying public and private property, with a major political party openly supporting it and everyone going about their jobs the next day as if nothing happened? If people do not fight for the laws to be kept, then will Australia continue being as safe as it is today?

We must understand that Australia citizenship and/or residency is a privilege and an honor, something that we chose to accept over and above our citizenship by birth. So preserving its very basic principles and fighting for them is our moral and legal responsibility. But when we override them with the same practises and attitude that have prevented us from making our own countries worth sticking on to, then Australia will also take a downward turn.

Lets accept facts as facts. Many immigrants enjoy the benefits but never actually give back. They only fight for their rights to practise their culture but never realize that by doing so, they are overriding others'. The concept of "My freedom ends where my neighbor's nose begins" is totally forgotten. None of these can be good.
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Old 05-09-2008
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Exclamation Thanks but no thanks...

I originally posted this thread to get information about a country that i feel i belong to, and want to move back to. I am an Australian by birth to Moroccan parents. To get these senseless rants from sidewinder is not what i was aiming for, Conservative/Right Wing morons are the reason i have become disillusioned by the United States and want to leave. The reason I posted this is to find out what sort of assistance i would get as a University student from the gov't? The medical benefits? And the overall attitude of Australians in this world that has changed so quickly in the last 7 years. I have met Aussies here that are full of life, and are all about having a good time. Thanks to all that have given positive responses, and any more information is welcome because it is a big decision and a big move for me to make. This is not an attack against you sidewinder, i just would rather this not stretch out any longer, so please spare me your comments. And always remember: "Arguing online is like running the special olympics: even if you win, you're still a retard...."

P.S. are there any big music festivals that take place in Australia, one where you camp out?? And what is the best city for a good art/music scene?
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